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Residential Solar Storage Systems - Comparison

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Introduction

We offer five different residential storage systems, as follows:

  • Tesla Powerwall 3
  • Tesla Powerwall 2
  • MyEnergi libbi
  • GivEnergy domestic and commercial systems (domestic - Modular + All in One)
  • Victron Energy Storage Systems (Victron + BYD / Pylontech batteries)


We have presented a comparison of our offering in the tables below. You can also download this comparison as a PDF.

 

All storage systems consist of a charger and battery. The Powerwall 2, Powerwall 3, GivEnergy All-in-One and libbi are 'all-in-one' systems, with the charger and battery combined into one unit. The GivEnergy modular and Victron systems have separate charger and battery units, making them less compact and aesthetically pleasing, but more 'modular' with greater design flexibility.

There is no 'one-size-fits-all' solution. The right choice for you will depend on your budget, space availability, house usage, solar output, and whether you want a back-up in a power cut or not. You may not want cobalt in your battery, in which case the Powerwall 2 is not for you.

Storage Cost / Benefit

Installing storage affords the following potential benefits:

  • increased on-site use of solar generation – with a correctly sized solar energy storage system, 65%-80% of solar generation should be used on site, thus reducing the owner’s electricity bill;
  • emergency power supply in a power cut;
  • the ability to buy electricity off-peak and store it for use at peak;
  • the potential to increase on site power output by around 20% (useful when fast-charging an electric vehicle);
  • potential to access future opportunities including the export and sale of electricity at peak charge times, and the provision of grid balancing services.

A re-chargeable battery essentially consists of thousands of 'kWh storage slots', charging one kWh by the grid or excess solar, and then discharging one kWh (minus about 10% losses). In economic terms, one of the key questions is - how much does each kWh storage slot cost? The answer depends on the chemistry, since lithium ferro phospate (LFP) typically offers twice as many 'lifecycles' or storage slots per kWh battery capacity than lithium manganese cobalt (LMNC). With the correctly sized system, the lifetime cost per kWh of stored electricity is around  9p per kWh for LFP (all our batteries except the Powerwall) and around 16p per kWh for lithium manganese cobalt (Powerwall). This compares to an average domestic grid cost of around 22.36p per kWh. 

The lifetime cost per kWh typically assumes an expected lifetime of between 10 years and 25 years (or between 4,000 lifecycles (LMNC) and 10,000 lifecycles (LFP), and whilst the overall economic case is favourable, solar energy storage should undoubtedly be seen as a long-term investment. 

System Comparison: Rough Cost, Use, Components and Sizing

System Comparison: Rough Cost, Use, Components and Sizing
  Tesla Powerwall 3 Tesla Powerwall 2 MyEnergi libbi GivEnergy Modular GivEnergy All in One Victron + BYD/Pylontech
Rough Installed Cost
(0% VAT)
£7750

£574 per kWh storage

from £9p per kWh storage 'slot'
£7100

£526 per kWh storage

from 16p per kWh storage 'slot'
3.6kW / 5kWh: £6500

5kW / 20kWh: £14500

from £788 per kWh storage

from £9p per kWh storage 'slot'
HY5.2 +9.2kWh: £6600

AC3.0 +5.2kWh: £4750

HY5 +19kWh: £9600

from £9p per kWh storage 'slot'
£7800

from £424 per kWh storage

from £9p per kWh storage 'slot'
Varies: e..g. Quattro 8000 + 15.4kWh BYD:

£14000

from £909 per kWh storage

from £9p per kWh storage 'slot'
Chemistry(1) Lithium Ferro Phosphate Lithium Manganese Cobalt Lithium Ferro Phosphate Lithium Ferro Phosphate Lithium Ferro Phosphate Lithium Ferro Phosphate
Typical number of lifecycles for this chemistry ~ 6,000 - 10,000 ~ 4,500 ~6,000 - 10,000 ~6,000 - 10,000 ~6,000 - 10,000 ~6,000 - 10,000
Back-Up Capability(2)
(for a standard 230V grid connection)
'Whole house backup or  emergency loads; solar works in a power cut. Non-UPS 'Whole house backup or  emergency loads; solar works in a power cut. Non-UPS Emergency loads backup only (optional extra to price shown). Emergency loads backup only (limited to 2.5kW). Solar limited in a power cut. 'Whole house backup or  emergency loads; solar works in a power cut. 'Whole house' backup or  emergency loads; solar works in a power cut.
Use Case(3)
AC coupled: add storage to an existing PV system? Yes Yes Yes Yes
(use GIV-AC3.0)
Yes Yes
DC coupled: install storage and solar using the same inverter for battery and PV? Yes No Yes Yes
(use GIV-HY)
No Yes
Mix DC coupled and AC coupled? Yes No Yes No No Yes
System Accepts Generator Connection? No No No No No Yes
Quattro allows for grid and / or generator plus battery.
Size Per Unit
Max AC Output Power
(sizes are per unit - see below for units per phase)
3.68kW / 5kW / 7kW / 8kW / 9kW / 10kW / 11.04kW 3.68kW / 5.0kW(4) 3.68kW / 5.0kW(4) AC-Coupled: 3.0kW(5)
DC-Coupled: 3.0kW(5) / 5.0kW
6.0kW Various units, from 3.0kW to 12.0kW
Battery capacity Per Unit 
(some calculated by Depth of Discharge)
Usable: 13.5kWh Usable: 13.5kWh Nominal: Choice of 5kWh / 10 kWh/ 15 kWh / 20 kWh

Usable: Choice of 4.5kWh / 9kWh / 13.5kWh / 18kWh
Nominal: Choice of 2.6kWh / 5.3kWh / 9.5kWh

Usable: Choice of 2.1kWh / 4.2 kWh / 7.6 kWh
Usable: 13.5kWh Choice of:

BYD: 15.4kWh battery (usable capacity 15.36kWh).

Pylontech: range, typical usable capacity being circa 2.1kWh.
Max No of Units per Phase
(Most domestic properties have one phase - 230V)
Up to 216kWh

162kWh on 3-phase supply.

Compatible with 13.5kWh expansion packs .
Up to three: allows 40kWh storage capacity with 15kW power. One: allows 20kWh storage capacity, with 5.0kW power. One inverter, up to 5 batteries: allows up to 38kWh storage capacity, with 5kW power Up to three: allows 40kWh storage capacity. Up to six inverters: system design allows up to ~ 90kWh storage capacity, 30kW power.
 

(1) Lithium ferro phosphate is a superior chemistry to lithium manganese cobalt for two reasons:
a) It offers many more lifecycles (one lifecycle being a round-trip in and out of a kWh) – i.e. many more storage slots. Typically 6,000 – 10,000 lifecycles for lithium ferro 
phosphate, compared to 4,500 for lithium manganese cobalt.
b) There are reports of possible child labour issues associated with cobalt mining. Therefore lithium ferro phosphate is generally preferred.
(2) Emergency Loads require a second distribution board separating emergency loads from non-emergency loads. Whole House does not require this; however in a power-cut 
usage will be limited to the power output of the storage system. Setting up a second distribution board with loads that will function in a power cut is best practice (and 
good discipline!) but the additional electrical work does increase upfront cost.
(3) Solar PV panels generate DC electricity, and batteries charge and discharge with a DC current. DC coupled storage systems allow you to combine the solar PV and battery 
storage into one inverter; AC coupled storage systems do not. DC coupled systems are ideal for new or extension PV installs. They are most efficient, keeping AC/DC 
conversion losses to a minimum, and they also reduce the upfront system cost and the on-going maintenance cost. AC coupled storage systems are best used when retrofitting storage to an existing solar system. Flexible (AC and DC Coupled options) systems allow for both AC and DC coupled solar. They offer the best of both worlds.
(4) 5kW can be limited to 3.6kW if required by DNO operator (SSE etc), 
(5) Reduced to 2.5kW for emergency loads in a power-cut. Further limited in a power cut to 1.3kW with 2.6kWh battery. 



System Comparison: Normal Operating Modes / Functionality in a power cut (Islanded Mode)

It is important to know what happens in a power cut. Does the storage system work? Does the solar PV still work? Will everything in the house work ('Whole House' back up), or just pre-defined 'Emergency' loads connected to a separate board?

Note that all of this functionality is subject to prior approval from the network operator (SSE, Western Power etc).

Normal Operating Modes
  Tesla Powerwall 3 Tesla Powerwall 2 MyEnergi libbi GivEnergy Modular GivEnergy All in One Victron + BYD/Pylontech
Self-Consumption Yes Yes  Yes Yes Yes Yes
Timed (grid) charge / discharge Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Reserve specified % for back-up Yes Yes No Yes Yes Yes
Scope of Back-Up(2) Total flexibility: Whole House or Emergency Loads Total flexibility: Whole House or Emergency Loads Emergency Loads Only - but as an Optional Extra (non-standard). Emergency Loads Only

(up to 2.5 kW – See (5) above)
Total flexibility: Whole House or Emergency Loads Total flexibility: Whole House or Emergency Loads
Does the system provide an uninterrupted power supply (UPS)? No No No No Yes – 20 milli seconds Yes – 20 milli seconds
Will the Solar PV work in a power cut? Yes Yes No Giv-AC 3.0: No

Giv-Hy: only if the inverter sees a minimum load of 50W via the emergency power supply.
Yes Yes
Max Solar PV system that can be installed to operate in a power cut 13.25kWp (with 20% clipping) 7 kWp (more solar can be connected 'upstream') N/A N/A 7.2kWp The 1:1 Rule applies (similar to Powerwall). Same size PV system as inverter rating.

 

System Comparison: Monitoring, installation and warranty

 

  Tesla Powerwall 3 Tesla Powerwall 2 MyEnergi libbi GivEnergy Modular GivEnergy All in One Victron + BYD/Pylontech
Monitoring Tesla APP Tesla APP Monitoring portal and APP Monitoring portal and APP Monitoring portal and APP Monitoring portal, APP and local touch screen.
Internal or External installation? Either - Outside usually preferred. Either Inverter / battery: either, but not in loft. Controller: must be indoors. Either (although install canopy over the inverter outside to avoid direct sunlight or rainfall). Either Indoors, with batteries close to inverter-charger to minimise dc cable run.
Wall-mounted or floor-mounted? Either

Stacked up to 216kWh - Additional units and expansion packs can be mounted to the front of a Powerwall 3
Either

Stacking kit available for multiple Powerwall 2's
Either Wall-mount the inverter, batteries can be floor-standing indoors or wall-mounted indoors and outdoors. Either Inverter-charger is wall mounted, batteries are floor-standing.
Warranty 10 year defects. 80% storage capacity retained after 10 years. 10 year defects. 80% storage capacity retained after 10 years. Inverter/charger and controller: 5 years

Battery: 10 years with unlimited cycles within that time as long as MyEnergi controller is in use.
Inverter: 5 years

Battery: 70% storage capacity retained after 10 years, or (smaller batteries only) 5000 full cycles at 90% DOD, 5000 lifecycles, whichever comes first.

12 Years Inverter: 5 years

Battery:

BYD – 60% storage capacity retained after 10 years 

Pylontech – 10 year ‘time value replacement’ guarantee, meaning the ‘time value’ of the batteries is replaced based on linear depreciation over 10 years.

System Comparison: Three phase (400V) grid connections

If you have a normal single phase (230V) grid connection, ignore this section.

With a three phase grid connection, you have a choice:

  • connect storage to one of your three phases only, in which case only loads and single phase PV inverters connected on this phase will work in a power cut; or
  • connect storage to all three phases, which is more expensive, but, with Victron (or GivEnergy's commercial three phase storage units), will enable you to back-up all three phases.

      Tesla Powerwall 3 Tesla Powerwall 2 MyEnergi libbi GivEnergy Modular GivEnergy All-in-One Victron + BYD/Pylontech
    Can the system be installed on a three phase connection? Yes, one Powerwall 3 per phase, plus 3 expansion packs per Powerwall 3 unit. Power cut protection capability on three phase connection unknown. Yes, up to three Powerwall 2's per phase. Note that ONLY one phase will work in a power cut. Not recommended. But is technically possible, up to three libbi's per phase. Not recommended. Use GivPCS-30, GivPCS-50, GivPCS-100 instead (GivEnergy’s three phase systems). Not recommended. But is technically possible, up to three All in One's per phase. Yes, typically up to four or five units can be installed per phase.
    Will the system work in a power cut? TBC
    Contact Spirit Energy for latest information.
    Only one phase can work in a power cut, even if Powerwall 2's are installed on more than one phase.  Three phase loads and three phase solar PV will not work in a power cut. N/A N/A N/A Yes, any phase to which a Victron unit is installed will work in a power cut. Three phase loads and solar PV will work if Victron units are installed on every phase.