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Residential Solar Storage Systems - Comparison

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Introduction

We offer four different residential storage systems, as follows:

  • Tesla Powerwall 2
  • MyEnergi libbi (NEW Jan 2023)
  • GivEnergy domestic and commercial systems (domestic - Modular + All in One)
  • Victron Energy Storage Systems (Victron + BYD / Pylontech batteries)
  • Tesla Powerwall 3 coming when released

We have presented a comparison of our offering in the tables below. You can also download this comparison as a PDF.

 

All storage systems consist of a charger and battery. The Powerwall's and libbi are 'all-in-one' systems, with the charger and battery combined into one unit. The GivEnergy and Victron systems have separate charger and battery units, making them less compact and aesthetically pleasing, but more 'modular' with greater design flexibility.

There is no 'one-size-fits-all' solution. The right choice for you will depend on your budget, space availability, house usage, solar output, and whether you want a back-up in a power cut or not. You may not want cobalt in your battery, in which case the Powerwall is not for you.

Storage Cost / Benefit

Installing storage affords the following potential benefits:

  • increased on-site use of solar generation – with a correctly sized solar energy storage system, 65%-80% of solar generation should be used on site, thus reducing the owner’s electricity bill;
  • emergency power supply in a power cut;
  • the ability to buy electricity off-peak and store it for use at peak;
  • the potential to increase on site power output by around 20% (useful when fast-charging an electric vehicle);
  • potential to access future opportunities including the export and sale of electricity at peak charge times, and the provision of grid balancing services.

A re-chargeable battery essentially consists of thousands of 'kWh storage slots', charging one kWh by the grid or excess solar, and then discharging one kWh (minus about 10% losses). In economic terms, one of the key questions is - how much does each kWh storage slot cost? The answer depends on the chemistry, since lithium ferro phospate (LFP) typically offers twice as many 'lifecycles' or storage slots per kWh battery capacity than lithium manganese cobalt (LMNC). With the correctly sized system, the lifetime cost per kWh of stored electricity is around  9p per kWh for LFP (all our batteries except the Powerwall) and around 16p per kWh for lithium manganese cobalt (Powerwall). This compares to an average domestic grid cost of around 23.72p per kWh. 

The lifetime cost per kWh typically assumes an expected lifetime of between 10 years and 25 years (or between 4,000 lifecycles (LMNC) and 10,000 lifecycles (LFP), and whilst the overall economic case is favourable, solar energy storage should undoubtedly be seen as a long-term investment. 

System Comparison: Rough Cost, Use, Components and Sizing

  Tesla Powerwall 2 Tesla Powerwall 3 MyEnergi libbi GivEnergy Modular GivEnergy All in One Victron + BYD/Pylontech

Rough Installed Cost (ex VAT)

VAT is 0% if installed domestically with solar panels, 20% otherwise

£ 7350 + VAT

£544 per kWh storage

~ 16p per kWh storage 'slot'

TBC - Not yet announced, we predict £12,000 - £15,000

3.6kW / 5kWh: £ 6500 + VAT

5kW / 20kWh:  £ 14500 + VAT

from £788 per kWh storage

from 9p per kWh storage 'slot'

HY5.2 +9.2kWh:£6600 + VAT

AC3.0 +5.2kWh:£ 4750 + VAT

HY5 +19kWh: £ 9600 + VAT

from £632 per kWh storage

from 9p per kWh storage 'slot'

£ 7800 + VAT

from £424 per kWh storage

from 9p per kWh storage 'slot'

Varies: e..g. Quattro 8000 + 15.4kWh BYD:

£ 14000 + VAT

from £909 per kWh storage

from 9p per kWh storage 'slot'

Chemistry(1)

 

Typical number of lifecycles for this chemistry

Lithium Manganese Cobalt

 

~ 4,500

TBC

Lithium        Ferro  Phosphate

 

~6,000 - 10,000

Lithium        Ferro  Phosphate

 

~6,000 - 10,000

Lithium        Ferro  Phosphate

 

~6,000 - 10,000

Lithium        Ferro  Phosphate

 

~6,000 - 10,000

Back-Up Capability(2)

(for a standard 230V grid connection)

 

'Whole house backup or  emergency loads; solar works in a power cut.

'Whole house backup or  emergency loads; solar works in a power cut.

Emergency loads backup only (optional extra to price shown).

Emergency loads backup only (limited to 2.5kW). Solar limited in a power cut.

 

'Whole house backup or  emergency loads; solar works in a power cut.

'Whole house' backup or  emergency loads; solar works in a power cut.

Use Case(3)

AC coupled: add storage to an existing PV system?

DC coupled: install storage and solar using the same inverter for battery and PV?

Mix DC coupled and AC coupled?

 

Yes

 

 

No

 

 

No

 

     Yes

 

 

     Yes

 

 

    TBC

 

Yes

 

 

Yes

 

 

Yes

 

          Yes                     (use GIV-AC3.0)

 

           Yes                 (use GIV-HY)

 

 

No

 

 

Yes

 

 

No

 

 

No

 

Yes

 

 

Yes

 

 

Yes

System Accepts Generator Connection?

No TBC - (unlikely) No No No Yes - Quattro allows for grid and / or generator plus battery.

Size Per Unit Max AC Output Power(sizes are per unit - see below for units per phase)

                        3.68kW / 5.0kW(4)

 

11.5kW - Specifics unknown

                      3.68kW / 5.0kW(4)

 

                            AC AC Coupled:3.0kW(5) DC Coupled:3.0kW(5) / 5.0kW

 

6.0kW

                        Various units, from 3.0kW to 12.0kW

 

Battery capacity Per Unit  Note the most useful capacity is usable capacity (nominal x 80% - 90% depth of discharge = DofD x Nominal 

Usable: 13.5kWh

Usable: 13.5kWh

Nominal: Choice of 5kWh / 10 kWh/ 15 kWh / 20 kWh

Depth of discharge: 90%

Usable: Choice of 4.5kWh / 9kWh / 13.5kWh / 18kWh

Nominal: Choice of 2.6kWh / 5.3kWh / 9.5kWh

Depth of discharge: 80%

Usable: Choice of 2.1kWh / 4.2 kWh / 7.6 kWh

Usable: 13.5kWh

Choice of:

BYD: 15.4kWh battery (usable capacity 15.36kWh).

Pylontech offers a range, typical usable capacity being circa 2.1kWh.

Max No of Units per Phase (Most domestic properties have one phase - 230V).

Up to three: allows 40kWh storage capacity with 15kW power.

Up to 40.5kWh

One: allows 20kWh storage capacity, with 5.0kW power.

One inverter, up to 5 batteries: allows up to 38kWh storage capacity, with 5kW power

Up to three: allows 40kWh storage capacity.

Up to six inverters: system design allows up to ~ 90kWh storage capacity, 30kW power.

 

(1) Lithium ferro phosphate is a superior chemistry to lithium manganese cobalt for two reasons:
a) It offers many more lifecycles (one lifecycle being a round-trip in and out of a kWh) – i.e. many more storage slots. Typically 6,000 – 10,000 lifecycles for lithium ferro 
phosphate, compared to 4,500 for lithium manganese cobalt.
b) There are reports of possible child labour issues associated with cobalt mining. Therefore lithium ferro phosphate is generally preferred.
(2) Emergency Loads require a second distribution board separating emergency loads from non-emergency loads. Whole House does not require this; however in a power-cut 
usage will be limited to the power output of the storage system. Setting up a second distribution board with loads that will function in a power cut is best practice (and 
good discipline!) but the additional electrical work does increase upfront cost.
(3) Solar PV panels generate DC electricity, and batteries charge and discharge with a DC current. DC coupled storage systems allow you to combine the solar PV and battery 
storage into one inverter; AC coupled storage systems do not. DC coupled systems are ideal for new or extension PV installs. They are most efficient, keeping AC/DC 
conversion losses to a minimum, and they also reduce the upfront system cost and the on-going maintenance cost. AC coupled storage systems are best used when retrofitting storage to an existing solar system. Flexible (AC and DC Coupled options) systems allow for both AC and DC coupled solar. They offer the best of both worlds.
(4) 5kW can be limited to 3.6kW if required by DNO operator (SSE etc), 
(5) Reduced to 2.5kW for emergency loads in a power-cut. Further limited in a power cut to 1.3kW with 2.6kWh battery. 



System Comparison: Normal Operating Modes / Functionality in a power cut (Islanded Mode)

It is important to know what happens in a power cut. Does the storage system work? Does the solar PV still work? Will everything in the house work ('Whole House' back up), or just pre-defined 'Emergency' loads connected to a separate board?

Note that all of this functionality is subject to prior approval from the network operator (SSE, Western Power etc).

  Tesla Powerwall 2 Tesla Powerwall 3 MyEnergi libbi GivEnergy Modular GivEnergy All in One Victron + BYD/Pylontech

Normal Operating Modes

- Self-Consumption

- Timed (grid) charge / discharge

- Reserve specified % for back-up

 

 

Yes

 

Yes

 

Yes

 

 

      Yes

 

      Yes

 

      Yes

 

 

 Yes

 

Yes

 

No

 

 

 

 

Yes

 

Yes

 

Yes

 

 

Yes

 

Yes

 

Yes

 

 

 

Yes

 

Yes

 

Yes

Scope of Back-Up(2)

Total flexibility: Whole House or Emergency Loads

Total flexibility: Whole House or Emergency Loads

Emergency Loads Only - but as an Optional Extra (non-standard).

 

Emergency Loads Only

(up to 2.5 kW – See (5) above)

Total flexibility: Whole House or Emergency Loads

Total flexibility: Whole House or Emergency Loads

Does the system provide an uninterrupted power supply (UPS)?

No

No

No

No

Yes – 20 milli seconds

Yes – 20 milli seconds

Will the Solar PV work in a power cut?

 

Yes                     

 

 

      Yes

 

No

 

 

 

Giv-AC 3.0: No

Giv-Hy: only if the inverter sees a minimum load of 50W via the emergency power supply.

 

       Yes                     

 

Yes

Max Solar PV system that can be installed to operate in a power cut

7 kWp (more solar can be connected 'upstream')

13.8kWp

N/A

N/A

7.2kWp

The 1:1 Rule applies (similar to Powerwall). Same size PV system as inverter rating.

System Comparison: Operating modes, functionality and warranty

 

  Tesla Powerwall 2 Tesla Powerwall 3 MyEnergi libbi GivEnergy Modular GivEnergy All in One Victron + BYD/Pylontech

Monitoring

Tesla APP

Tesla APP

Monitoring portal and APP

Monitoring portal and APP

Monitoring portal and APP

Monitoring portal, APP and local touch screen.

Internal or External installation?

Either

Either

Inverter / battery: either, but not in loft. Controller: must be indoors.

Either (although install canopy over the inverter outside to avoid direct sunlight or rainfall).

Either

Indoors, with batteries close to inverter-charger to minimise dc cable run.

Wall-mounted or floor-mounted?

Either

Stacking kit available for multiple Powerwalls

Either

Stacked up to 40.5kWh - Specifics of stacking unknown 

        Either

Wall-mount the inverter, batteries can be floor-standing indoors or wall-mounted indoors and outdoors.

       Either

Inverter-charger is wall mounted, batteries are floor-standing.

Warranty

10 year defects. 80% storage capacity retained after 10 years.

10 year defects. 80% storage capacity retained after 10 years.

Inverter/charger and controller: 5 years

Battery: 10 years with unlimited cycles within that time as long as MyEnergi controller is in use.

Inverter: 5 years

Battery: 70% storage capacity retained after 10 years, or (smaller batteries only) 5000 full cycles at 90% DOD, 5000 lifecycles, whichever comes first.

12 Years

Inverter: 5 years

Battery:

BYD – 60% storage capacity retained after 10 years 

Pylontech – 10 year ‘time value replacement’ guarantee, meaning the ‘time value’ of the batteries is replaced based on linear depreciation over 10 years.

 

System Comparison: Three phase (400V) grid connections

If you have a normal single phase (230V) grid connection, ignore this section.

With a three phase grid connection, you have a choice:

  • connect storage to one of your three phases only, in which case only loads and single phase PV inverters connected on this phase will work in a power cut; or
  • connect storage to all three phases, which is more expensive, but, with Victron (or GivEnergy's commercial three phase storage units), will enable you to back-up all three phases.


      Tesla Powerwall 2 Tesla Powerwall 3 MyEnergi libbi GivEnergy Modular GivEnergy All in One Victron + BYD/Pylontech

    Can the system be installed on a three phase connection?

    Yes, up to three Powerwalls per phase. Note that ONLY one phase will work in a power cut.

          TBC

    Not recommended. But is technically possible, up to three libbi's per phase.

    Not recommended. Use GivPCS-30, GivPCS-50, GivPCS-100 instead (GivEnergy’s three phase systems).

    Not recommended. But is technically possible, up to three All in One's per phase.

    Yes, typically up to four or five units can be installed per phase.

    Will the system work in a power cut?

    Only one phase can work in a power cut, even if Power walls are installed on more than one phase.  Three phase loads and three phase solar PV will not work in a power cut.

    TBC

    N/A

    N/A

    N/A

    Yes, any phase to which a Victron unit is installed will work in a power cut. Thee phase loads and solar PV will work if Victron units are installed on every phase.