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GivEnergy Hybrid All In One - Everything you need to know

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Functionality & Features

Hybrid inverter - Solar capacity
Hybrid inverter - Why 6 MPPT strings?
Hybrid inverter - DNO acceptance likelihood
Size & scalability - Expansion packs
Backup & Off-Grid support
Octopus integration
Warranty
Battery chemistry
Round trip efficiency
Giv Gateway 2
Monitoring

Installation & Design

Specifications

Usable capacity: 13.6 kWh
Starting Price (no solar): Unreleased
Continuous AC power output: Fully customisable up to 12 kW
Round-trip efficiency: Unreleased
Monitoring: GivEnergy app
Warranty: All inclusive 10 year warranty, extendable to 12 years with battery health checks in years 5, 8, and 10. Guaranteeing 70% cell capacity after 10 years.
Mounting: Wall- or floor-mounted.
Location: Indoor or outdoor installation -  IP65 rated.
Weather resistance: Unreleased
Dimensions: Unreleased
Weight: Unreleased
MPPTs: 6
Price: £7,800

 

Datasheet

As the Hybrid All In One hasn't been released yet we don't have a confirmed datasheet.

 

Headline Features of GivEnergy Hybrid All In One

-Continuous AC output of up to 12 kW.

-13.6 kWh capacity.

-"Plug and Play" expansion packs hinted at.

-12 kW Integrated hybrid inverter with 6 MPPT strings.

-Integrates with Octopus Intelligent Tariffs.

-LFP battery chemistry.

-Weather and dust resistant.

-Unknown price point

 

GivEnergy Hybrid All In One Price

As the Hybrid All In One isn't available yet, we don't have a confirmed price point. Our best guess is it will be slightly more expensive than the Powerwall 3 as the original All In One was slightly more than the Powerwall 2. We expect standard installation to prices to be ~£7,800.

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Functionality & features

Hybrid inverter - Solar capacity

The GivEnergy Hybrid All In One inverter can be rated up to 12 kW. Additionally, the All In One can have up to 20 kW of DC solar input which provides a lot of flexibility and enables you to fill your roof with solar. If you do decide to install a solar system which is much larger than the inverter rating then the system may be clipped - especially in summer months. 

*For more information on clipping and kWp, please read here - Spirit Energy - Solar PV Clipping, Undersizing and kWp

Hybrid inverter - The Benefits of 6 MPPT strings?

With most single phase solar inverters having a maximum of 3 MPPTs, the Hybrid All In One is by far in the lead with its 6 MPPTs. This allows for an incredible amount of customisation for standard houses, and for people with more complicated roofs. It also allows for very easy future system expansion as most houses won't utilise all 6 MPPTs.

For more information on MPPT's, how they work, and their benefits and limitations, please read here - Spirit Energy - What is MPPT (Maximum Power Point Tracking)?

The abundance of MPPTs will also help with shade mitigation. If you have a solar array with a section of panels that are severely shaded, by a chimney, for example, they could be strung on their own MPPT which will separate them from the rest of the system so they don't affect the output of any unshaded panels. Modern panels do also have bypass diodes in which help with shade mitigation.

For more information on string design an the impact of shading, please read our blog here - Spirit Energy - Solar Panel Shading Analysis

See our YouTube video here which shows how we helped to mitigate shade on a client's roof by taking bypass diode orientation into account:

 

Hybrid inverter - DNO acceptance likelihood

For any PV or battery system with an inverter rating greater than 3.68 kW, a DNO application needs to be done prior to installation (usually G99). Hybrid inverters greatly increase the number of panels that you can have, as well as the amount of battery storage that you can have. The reason being that you don't need a dedicated inverter for the PV and a separate inverter battery storage.

Because the inverter combines the solar inverter and the battery inverter, the potential output of the system will decrease, which increases DNO acceptance likelihood.

This is further aided by GivEnergy's fully customisable inverter capacities, meaning the same inverter can be sized to best meet both your needs, and the DNO restrictions.

More information on DNO restrictions, and how it can impact your system, can be found here - Spirit Energy - DNO Permission

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Size & scalability - Expansion packs

GivEnergy have hinted that they will also release expansion packs for the Hybrid All In One. They haven't released any information about these, however we expect you'll be able to add more than enough DC storage to meet your requirements.

One thing GivEnergy could do to try cement themselves at the top, is release smaller expansion packs. Most houses that need more than 13.6 kWh battery capacity, don't need upwards of 27 kWh. If GivEnergy release a 5 kW expansion pack for example, this gives much more customisation and is a big advantage over competitors.

Backup & off-grid support

GivEnergy Hybrid All In One enables you to continue providing power to your property during power cuts. It also allows your solar PV system to keep running in a power cut.

To learn more about how emergency backup, and off-grid battery systems work, please read here - Spirit Energy - Grid Backup and 3 Phase Systems

You can specify a custom reserve percentage (e.g. 20%) and the system will always keep that percentage of the capacity in reserve for a power cut. GivEnergy recommend 30% (4.08 kWh) or more.

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At 30% capacity (4.08 kWh), the All In One should power a standard home for 3-4 hours, whilst allowing you to keep the TV, fridge, lights and WiFi on (~ 1100 W).

Appliance Predicted load (W)
Kitchen
Fridge / Freezer 500
Kettle 3000
Oven 3650
Induction hob 1500
Office & Entertainment
Laptop 50
TV 80
WiFi 20
Lighting
Average load – 4 to 5 bedroom house, all LED 500
Laundry & Dishwasher
Dishwasher 1250
Washing Machine 500
Electric Clothes Dryer 4000

 

Octopus integration

The Hybrid All In One is compatible with Octopus Intelligent tariffs such as Octopus Intelligent Flux and Octopus Agile.

"Intelligent Octopus Flux pairs with your battery to optimise your charging and discharging to save you money and help balance the grid" – Octopus Energy

Octopus Intelligent Flux will tell the All In One to export at the times when it's most profitable to do so, meaning that you'll always get the best export deal. If the battery needs topping up, it will also charge automatically when the import rates are cheapest, helping to maximise your savings.

For a deeper breakdown of SEG tariffs, and which may make the most sense for you, please read here - Spirit Energy - SEG Tariffs

Warranty

GivEnergy Hybrid All In One comes with a 10* year warranty, guaranteed for 70% capacity.

GivEnergy Hybrid All In One has a 10 year warranty, which is extendable to 12 years if you get battery health checks in years 5, 8, and 10. GivEnergy guarantee that the battery will have 70% (9.52 kWh) of its initial capacity remaining after 10 years.

Battery chemistry

GivEnergy Hybrid All in One uses a Lithium Ferro Phosphate (LFP) battery chemistry.

Similar to its predecessor, the Hybrid All In One uses Lithium Ferro Phosphate. LFP is widely regarded to have a longer lasting life-cycles and better cell degradation. It is also generally considered to be more ethical and sustainable

Round trip efficiency

We don't have round trip efficiency data for the Hybrid All In One, however the original All In One has a round trip efficiency of 93% so it's safe to assume the Hybrid will be similar.

Giv Gateway 2

With the release of the Hybrid All In One, GivEnergy also announced their new GivGateway 2. This is what enables the power cut protection, and it provides a backup changeover time of only 20 ms. It also has a few new features which make it a very competitive product.

The first of these features is the critical load backup. This allows you to wire certain appliances, such as your WIFI, fridge and lights, as critical loads. When a power cut occurs, your battery will kick in and start powering the entire house. Then when the battery gets to a certain charge level, say 20%, the gateway will then only provide power to your critical loads, to ensure they stay on for as long as possible.

Next is the smart loads switchgear. If there are certain appliances that you want to only draw power at certain times, you can ask your installer to wire these into the smart loads switchgear. You can then control what time these appliances are powered, or you can pair them with your smart tariff and have them powered when electricity is at its cheapest.

Finally, it will have a generator input. This will allow the gateway to trigger a diesel generator if the battery gets too low on charge. The generator can power the house and charge the battery until it's back up to a higher level of charge. This can be beneficial if you're in an extended power cut or if you just want your system to be completely off-grid.

Monitoring

The Hybrid All In One will be controlled and monitored via the GivEnergy app. 

The app only updates every 5 mins, and has a wide variety of information about the system, such as how much electricity your solar system is generating, how much electricity your house is consuming and much more. You can also control the entire system, such as how much power is saved for a power cut, whether you want to system to prioritise savings or staying off-grid, and you can control your smart tariff.


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GivEnergy Hybrid All In One Installation & Design

As the Hybrid All In One isn't released and the design isn't finalised we can't comment too much about the looks. However it does seem like a very solid product that we are sure to install for a large amount of customers.

However, the key point of the design that is very unlikely the change, is the screen in the middle of the system. This is a very exciting development as it allows you to commission and monitor the system without any internet connection. This is a real benefit especially when it comes to the commissioning as that process can take a significant amount of time. For other systems if the internet connection cuts out at any point during the commissioning, you have to start the whole process again which can really drag out the process. Being able to commission offline completely negates this issue which is a really nice benefit.

The Hybrid All In One is rated to IP65 water-resistance, which means it is safe to go outside in the rain, and protected against dust and moisture.

The system isn't available yet so we're unsure on the installation process however the original All In One has a relatively straight forward install so we expect it to be slightly easier due to the time save of the commissioning.

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